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    is this what you're "boring" out? That's some serious internal work!

    Have you thought about one small turbo for the lower rpms to kick in early, then bypass to a large turbo that would give you power at higher rpms? If money isn't a concern, this would be the best way to go. Then again, I have no idea what I'm talking about or how to actually do it. And you also said it was just for show, too. So just make it LOOK like there are two turbos there. Forget about hooking them up, and use one of those deer whistles in your tailpipe.

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    LOL ya i saw those whistles on ebay for like 20$.

    no one will even know the difference
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    gotta love the tech talk on GenDub


    since when did 'u know, the head goes on the block and in between is the gasket' become "tech talk", its common sense

    at any rate i dont mean to take a piss on you i think you're just mixing up terms a little bit and thats leading to some semantics here. Bore is almost exclusively used when referring to displacement and machine work on the block, while "porting" is used to describe a more refined process whereby air volume/velocity characteristics in the head are changed by the removal of material.

    H2 sport doesn't have any famous race cars that I know of, if you really want a show-worthy set up and money isnt an object try SEM, they're the VR turbo specialists they've gotten cars into the 9's and are known for building some serious street fighters, the HIBOOST Corrado, the 24vT MK2, MINT GTI, etc.

    European Speed Sport also has a wealth of race experience

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    yah, H2sport is kind of like.. neuspeed for VWs, sure you can use them, but you`ll have to redo everything they make, they overcharge and they suck to talk to.

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    Agreed VW turbo work... id go with SEM they have the race backed experience... and we're not talking about oh back in the 70's i built blah blah blah... we're talking about how this past year they were runnin a 9sec golf thats known and respected across North America...

    other places too like ESS who use to have the fastest vw in canada right? the yellow rabbit? or am i mixing up shops...

    and a guy here boostedrocco works? or runs? a place thats pretty reputable in custom build ups?...

    Ive only seen bolt on kits performed by H2sport, so as for experience for custom builds im not to sure about them...
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    [quote="Neal"]Agreed VW turbo work... id go with SEM they have the race backed experience... and we're not talking about oh back in the 70's i built blah blah blah... we're talking about how this past year they were runnin a 9sec golf thats known and respected across North America...

    other places too like ESS who use to have the fastest vw in canada right? the yellow rabbit? or am i mixing up shops...

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    this season ESS had a blue MK3 Jetta all motor VR which they had for a bit, then a black MK3 Golf same motor, now something else is in the works They do GT racing not really drag, you may be thinking of Eurospeed they usually have yellow cars and although they haven't produced anything lately they did have some fast cars.

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    yeah the yellow one is eurospeed, but thats a far cry from anything that would be competative in the title for fastest VW.

    they are using the wrong motor, just like SEM is

    VRT all the way for huge power!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBore
    yah, H2sport is kind of like.. neuspeed for VWs, sure you can use them, but you`ll have to redo everything they make, they overcharge and they suck to talk to.
    ROFLMAO!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VR6ix
    twin turbo VR's:

    HPA Motorsports

    HPA has a partnership with HGP and all technology is developped in the fatherland by HGP:

    HGP Bi-Turbonachrüstung VR 6 403 PS/ 544Nm

    Motor:

    2,8 oder 2,9l VR6-Motor Leistung 403PS bei 6150U/min, 544Nm bei 4.400 U/min, Ladedruck 1,1bar elektronisch geregelt, Verdichtung 7,7 : 1, 2 wassergekühlte Mitsubishi-Turbolader, 2 Nickelstahl-Abgaskrümmer, 2 TDI-Ladeluftkühler mit Edelstahl-Luftleitungen, Hochleistungsbenzinpumpe, geänderte Einspritzdüsen, umprogrammierte Motorelektronik, 2 100-zeller Stahlkatalysatoren

    Fahrleistungen: (bei syncro-Fahrzeugen)

    0-100 km/h 4,2s, 0-200km/h 15,9s, 80-120km/h 2,4s Vmax. Über 300km/h mit geändertem Getriebe

    VR6-Bi-Turbo Teilekit zum Selbsteinbau bestehend aus:

    2 wassergekühlte Mitsubishi-Turbolader
    2 Abgaskrümmer aus Nickelguß
    2 Hitzeabschirmbleche (nicht abgebildet)
    2 Ladeluftkühler vom Golf TDI
    Ansaugrohr aus Aluminiumguß
    Stahlplatte zur Verdichtungsreduzierung
    Ölzu-u. Rücklaufleitungen, Wasseranschlüsse für Turbolader
    Rohrbögen und Flansche für Abgashosenrohr (muss am Fahrzeug angepasst werden)
    Luftleitungen, Schläuche, VA-Rohre u. Bögen (muss am Fahrzeug angepasst werden)
    Umluftventil verstärkte Ausführung
    Ladedruckanzeige mit Unterdruckleitungen
    Elektronische Ladedruckregelung
    Motorsteuergerätabänderung


    Preis inkl. MwSt. € 8.200,00

    Einbau inkl. MwSt. € 5.000,00 inkl. alle Anpassarbeiten










    http://www.hgp-turbo.de/

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    Translation:

    Engine:

    2.8 or 2.9L VR6-Motor achievement 403PS with 6150U/min, 544Nm with 4.400 U/min, load pressure 1.1bar electronically regulated, compression 7.7: changed injection nozzles, engine electronics, 2 100-zeller(?) steel catalysts reprogrammed , 2 water-cooled Mitsubishi turbochargers, 2 nickel steel exhaust elbow unions, 2 TDI intercoolers with high-grade steel air lines, high speed gasoline pump,

    Road performances: (with syncro vehicles)

    0-100 km/h 4.2s, 0-200km/h 15.9s, 80-120km/h 2.4s Vmax. Over 300km/h with changed transmission

    VR6-Bi-Turbo partial kit to the do-it-yourself installation consisting of:

    2 water-cooled Mitsubishi turbochargers
    2 exhaust elbow unions from nickel casting
    2 heat screening plates (not illustrated)
    2 intercoolers of the gulf TDI
    syphon from aluminum
    casting steel plate for compression reduction
    Return Pipes for Turbochargers.
    tube bends and flanges for exhaust breech piece (must be adapted at the vehicle)
    Air lines, hoses, VA pipe and elbows (must be adapted at the vehicle)
    Circulating air valve strengthened execution
    Load pressure indication with vacuum pipings
    Electronic load pressure control
    Expensive Engine Alteration

    Price is € 8.200,00

    Installation is € 5.000,00 including all adjustment work

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    how much is that converted into US $
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    \"So Jens, with all the upgrades you could probably take a stock civic right?\"

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley3251
    how much is that converted into US $
    8200 Euro = 11013.31 USD
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboABA
    Quote Originally Posted by hurley3251
    how much is that converted into US $
    8200 Euro = 11013.31 USD
    And in CDN?
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    sure but the exchange rate calculator thta i use wich is up to date gave those numbers, but at that price who cares, way too expensive in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boostedrocco
    sure but the exchange rate calculator thta i use wich is up to date gave those numbers, but at that price who cares, way too expensive in the first place.
    You get what you pay for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boostedrocco
    sure but the exchange rate calculator thta i use wich is up to date
    I used www.xe.com and that was the rate when I did it!
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    [quote="Fourbanger"][quote="Neal"]Agreed VW turbo work... id go with SEM they have the race backed experience... and we're not talking about oh back in the 70's i built blah blah blah... we're talking about how this past year they were runnin a 9sec golf thats known and respected across North America...

    other places too like ESS who use to have the fastest vw in canada right? the yellow rabbit? or am i mixing up shops...


    this season ESS had a blue MK3 Jetta all motor VR which they had for a bit, then a black MK3 Golf same motor, now something else is in the works They do GT racing not really drag, you may be thinking of Eurospeed they usually have yellow cars and although they haven't produced anything lately they did have some fast cars.
    yes SEM makes some fast cars that go to the track but remeber that there are ALOT of other shops that have made (very recently) some high horsepower,very realiable, VW's that do not go to the track. That said, i can't wait to see SEM's 1.8t race car hit single digits!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JETTSET
    You get what you pay for.
    I agree with Jettset.

    People don't realize that HGP was making Turbo VR's when most company's were only thinking of making CAI's and upper strut bars for the VR, haha!
    You don't get TUV approval in Germany for producing sheit!! You also have to realize that the conversion of prices from EURO to CND is correct, you must also realize that in Europe, Europeans have a higher cost of living and therefore make more Euro's per hour/day in comparison to our saleries here, thus resulting in a price that is fixed according to what is affordable to them. Prices for turbo's etc... generally do cost more in Europe.

    That's where HPA comes in, using HGP engineering they provide the exact same kit using components that are OEM VAW or N.Am produced products to provide high quality kits at prices that are within or stratosphere of affordability.

    A fully built HPA VR6 Twin Turbo 12v comes with a two year warranty on parts and labour, you'll be hard pressed to find a company that backs their turbo kits with similar policies.

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    nice waranty but they blew up theyre own project, so wonder what the waranty is for, not sure they would back it up, just like turbo waranty, you will hardpress to get a new turbo if you blow it up in the year of waranty. Way to many things can go wrong, IMO the word "waranty" is a sell pitch plain and simple once install, and blown up, your on your own.
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    way to much cashish
    01\' Jetta 1.8t, k05 turbo upgrade, nitrous express, etc...

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    \"So Jens, with all the upgrades you could probably take a stock civic right?\"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBore
    yah, H2sport is kind of like.. neuspeed for VWs, sure you can use them, but you`ll have to redo everything they make, they overcharge and they suck to talk to.
    Actually you are wrong.

    H2Sport built a crazy 2.0 turbo car last summer with a GT28R turbo, customs manifolds (both intake and exhaust), 3" DP, DTA E48, etc, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberhare
    H2Sport built a crazy 2.0 turbo car last summer with a GT28R turbo, customs manifolds (both intake and exhaust), 3" DP, DTA E48, etc, etc.
    Oh really? Do you have any more info about this? Like how it runs, what kind of power it makes, etc?

    You never hear about any "crazy" 2L.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBore
    yah, H2sport is kind of like.. neuspeed for VWs, sure you can use them, but you`ll have to redo everything they make, they overcharge and they suck to talk to.
    I stand against this statement. They have treated me like a king there. Staying HOURS after closing on saturdays (unpaid) to get the job done right for me. I can't say enough good things about these guys.
    However much I praise their good work, I'm sure there are cases where things go foul. But this is the case in any business.
    Don't discredit them completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamstate
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBore
    yah, H2sport is kind of like.. neuspeed for VWs, sure you can use them, but you`ll have to redo everything they make, they overcharge and they suck to talk to.
    I stand against this statement. They have treated me like a king there. Staying HOURS after closing on saturdays (unpaid) to get the job done right for me. I can't say enough good things about these guys.
    However much I praise their good work, I'm sure there are cases where things go foul. But this is the case in any business.
    Don't discredit them completely.
    Dave and Jay are actually very good at fabricating.

    They have worked on some custom turbo cars that run well and make good power. You probably don't hear about them because most of their customers aren't the type to boast. They enjoy their cars and keep to themselves.

    Most of you guys are of the mindset that cheapest is best. Eurojet. Need I say more? You're all about telling others to go to SEM, but if you got a quote from them to build a turbo VR, you'd be on here bitching about how overpriced they are.
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    Most of you guys are of the mindset that cheapest is best. Eurojet. Need I say more?
    ahha I knew you were gonna say that, because of the way you guys went over my intercooler when I picked up my side skirts last year.. Wasn't H2Sports making a FMIC?

    The eurojet FMIC is pretty damn good, espically for the price, and it does what it is supposed to. I've had it on for 2 full seasons now, and it has never leaked (including winter! I even used it as a snow plow a few times) The welds are near perfect, it uses the stock location for piping (meaning it will work with stg 3 if you want to use it).. I think that was a bad example.

    I don't really care what peoples opinions are on products, but honestly an Intercooler, is an Intercooler.


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