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    Ok so im just gonna turn this into a build thread.. idk if im allowed to do that or not. but here it is. This use to be about info on paint but im just gonna turn it into a build thread.
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    How much time and money do you want to put into the car? Personally if would pull all the glass, trim, interior, Fenders, doors, hood, hatch strip the car down prep it and paint everything when its off the car let it cure and then put the car back together.
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    well ill be doing everything myself, other then the actual painting..also i gotta drive the car to the paint shop so has to be road legal and safe hah. ill have a grand, paint included. well its going the same color, so its only the outside that well be getting done, i just want to remove as much as i can to make it easier. im going back to the cleanlyness like this when i first bought it from a guy in windsor ontario..

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    if your staying the same colour then just pop out the head lights, grill, all marker lights, door trim and your front and rear valences, Door Handles, antenna mirros, tail lights.

    Prep the car, tack it, mask everything, give it one more quick tack and go to town with primer and paint and clear.
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    should i primer the whole car? or just do a 400 sanding? also how do i remove the side moldings?
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    This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen (no offense). You'll be hard pressed to find a shop that will just lay down paint after they didn't do the prep work.

    You should be pulling the windshield as well to make sure there's no rust. Also, tow it to the paint shop don't strip the car and then drive it. Unless it's a block away.
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    The best primer out there is the factory paint, as long as it's not showing rust or bare metal. You'll have to prime any repaired places, but PLEASE use a good primer (two part activated), not something from a spray can.

    You'll also need to factor in a good clean/degrease once its at the body shop. You're far better off letting the shop do the prep work, if not they won't warranty their work at all.
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    I don't think any shop will paint your car if you do the actual bodywork prep yourself - not unless you know the shop.

    The best thing to get it ready would be to pull everything you don't want paint on. Hell, if you can give them a completely empty shell, they won't have to mask anything, it will be the 'cheapest' paint job you can get. That being said - do you have the time / knowledge / space to remove everything, store it and put it back together? I wouldn't take windshields and anything with a seal on it out / in myself.. you could easily smash it.

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    well, i already got the shop located and already was talking to him, and he is fine with painting it without doing the work. any rust parts ( right fender) im replacing with a new part. i have a spary gun so ill use that to spary the primer.
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    There's a difference between rust repair and paint prep... the shop will still want to do the final scuff/sand, and cleaning/degreasing or they have no way to ensure the paint sticks well.
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    oh yea i know, i might be taking out the rear window as i can drive without it.. im doing the "body work"..i already got the paint. as he told me were to get it.
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    final sanding should be 600 grit. I dunno if you should prime it yourself especially if it is outside. It may need sanded after primer. And my main concern would be wheels, makes sure you dont get your car painted with nice wheels because they will just throw tire bags over them which makes me cringe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wparsons View Post
    The best primer out there is the factory paint, as long as it's not showing rust or bare metal. You'll have to prime any repaired places, but PLEASE use a good primer (two part activated), not something from a spray can.

    You'll also need to factor in a good clean/degrease once its at the body shop. You're far better off letting the shop do the prep work, if not they won't warranty their work at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yamahammer View Post
    final sanding should be 600 grit. I dunno if you should prime it yourself especially if it is outside. It may need sanded after primer. And my main concern would be wheels, makes sure you dont get your car painted with nice wheels because they will just throw tire bags over them which makes me cringe.
    you ALWAYS have to sand after primer to knock down the rough edge, and get a nice finish ready surface
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubonic possesion View Post
    you ALWAYS have to sand after primer to knock down the rough edge, and get a nice finish ready surface

    yea ill be using my steelies, rims are getting re-finished..and i prob 90% likly wont be primering the whole car as it is not needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lava_A3 View Post
    i hope so, thats forsure :P i want to get some borbet BS rims. but that wont happen for awhile..or xxr 521 16x8
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    how do i take the side moldings off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxkoadyxx View Post
    how do i take the side moldings off?
    Its a VW so I imagine some El Cheapo plastic clips that will break the second you touch them
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    MKIII's are all double sided taped on IIRC, but some might have clips?
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    i was told the textured ones were clipped on..can i get new clips?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxkoadyxx View Post
    i was told the textured ones were clipped on..can i get new clips?
    ya if they have clips dealer will have them. But I just searched around vortex, and everyone's are held on by adhesive. One way to tell i guess would be to take your door card off and look if there are any protruding clips coming through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yamahammer View Post
    ya if they have clips dealer will have them. But I just searched around vortex, and everyone's are held on by adhesive. One way to tell i guess would be to take your door card off and look if there are any protruding clips coming through.
    so if they were clipped on, it would be from the inside..ok, im pretty sure its clipped on though, could be wrong.
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    They're clipped from the outside, but with the door card off you could see the clips coming through the door panel. If I were you, I would just try to slide them off without breaking clips. If they won't budge, they're probably taped on. In any case, I would just get good 3M outdoor double sided tape to put them on after paint.
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    ok so im gonna get the rear glass taken out, and then maybe build a metal lisesne plate tub, and shave the rear turn singles?? not sure, and also maybe a boser hood?
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    soo may 5th is the date my car well be getting painted
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    Im excited to see this! When you say shave the rear signals, do you mean this?

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