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    Question 2.0 FSI vs 2.0 TSI

    OK, what are the real differences?

    I know that TSI is chain-driven, it can also take regular 87 gas without damaging the engine, as oppose to FSI that HAS to take only premium gas..... Anything else?

    Planning to get a bit used passat also ( maybe), so in regards to long-term maintenance TSI looks like a better option ( no need to change the timing belt), judging just from what I know so far.

    Any suggestions, please?
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    TSI does not have the PCV, cam lobe and fuel pump issues

    Thats like 90% of the issues people are having on the FSI

    Honestly, if i were to get a used 2.0t, Id try to stick to a TSI, unless its VERY WELL maintained
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    User manual also states you you can run the FSI on regular gas, just recomends 91.

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    yea, regular gas WILL work, but after prolonged use, will cause problems
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    OMG is FSI THAT bad?
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    it requires a lot more special attention and maintenance. Not to mention it has more potential problems, especially the cam lobe/fuel pump issue

    I had one, had pcv issues
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    my '06 had cold start issues, only issue I've had with the '07 is it burns oil

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    cold start issues should be gone by now, its just a ECU fix by the dealer

    good call, my FSI burned oil too. they all do, it sucks
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    Well.....it will have 2 year warranty....all these essues that the car MIGHT have shoudl be covered, right?
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    So if the maintenance schedule is every 8k km or 6 month ( whichever occurs faster) - is it ENOUGH for the oil life, or not?

    EMSbyDAY, isn't your Audi 2.0 FSI?

    Thank you for all your help!
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    Yes, both my engines have been FSI. I change my oil (full synthetic) at the dealer every 8k or less and still have to add at least a quart between oil changes.

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    I have the FSI, a fuel pump issue was fixed under warranty and mine somehow doesn't burn much oil at all. Oil change at 8K I'm still above the minimum on the stick. Only other issue I've had was a fuel sensor that was screwed up and fixed under warranty.

    That being said at the time if I could have gotten the same deal on a TSI I probably would have taken it over the FSI.

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    Lower compression as well, I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastet View Post
    Well.....it will have 2 year warranty....all these essues that the car MIGHT have shoudl be covered, right?
    maybe

    but, a tech will not inspect the level of wear to your cam lobe until its too late (when its punched through and causes massive engine problems)

    they will not diagnose PCV until the symptoms are severe


    That said, not ALL FSI motors are affected, most problems were fixed with the newer revision parts. Id stay away from 06 FSI motors. stick to late FSI motors
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    That's exactly what I'm looking at - 2006 Passat FSI

    I wish I'd get the same deal on TSI.....

    OMG I don't know what to do
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    Didnt you just get a mk6?
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    OK just spoke to my techs....they all said that 2006 VR6 4 Motion will be a way better choice for me.
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    ah

    yeah, I agree.
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    do it Ric!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuber Speed View Post
    ah

    yeah, I agree.
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    I disagree with that Luke....unless you took cost and savings into equation.

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    if you look at the money factor, yes, you are correct

    if you look at reliability, stress, headaches, etc...its iffy
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    I can get 2006 3.6L VR6 4 Motion with 76k km for the same price as 2006 2.0 FSI with 81k km.....

    Price difference MIGHT be like $ 1-1,5k.

    So besides the $ factor.....VR6 all the way?


    p.s. You guys told me that 2.0 FSI eats lots oil......well 3.6 VR6 is also FSI....will it eat oil as well?

    What are the disadvantages of 3.6 vs 2.0 FSI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastet View Post
    I can get 2006 3.6L VR6 4 Motion with 76k km for the same price as 2006 2.0 FSI with 81k km.....

    Price difference MIGHT be like $ 1-1,5k.

    So besides the $ factor.....VR6 all the way?


    p.s. You guys told me that 2.0 FSI eats lots oil......well 3.6 VR6 is also FSI....will it eat oil as well?

    What are the disadvantages of 3.6 vs 2.0 FSI?

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    So the reliability is way better on 3.6L 4 motion?

    How is the real fuel consumption of this sexy beast?
    I can read it on the paper, but any real life expirience? plz plz plz ?
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