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    Rail dust rant

    GRRR - so I went to wash my car now that we've actually got some warm enough weather, only to discover rust specks ALL OVER my less than 6 mo old car!

    I'm pretty cranky because this is something that should have been dealt with prior to delivery and now I either have to fix it myself or potentially battle it out with VW to have them do it. I have done some reading and clay bar sounds like the solution........

    I have an appt tomorrow to have it looked at and photographed, we'll see how this goes.

    I've never used a clay bar and understand that it could be potentially damaging to the paint if not used properly, so I'm relectant to do it. Not to mention, I don't have a heated garage or suitable place to do it right now......

    Thanks for letting me vent.. that is all!

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    Claybaring is not that difficult. It takes a long time though and personally I think VW should take care of your issue anyways. But as you mentioned they are a PITA to deal with
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    6 months old with rust WTF!!! did you oil spray your car? stone chips?
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    No, I did not oil spray it and there's no way that it's stone chips.. the spots are EVERYWHERE, including on plastic painted trim pieces.

    Rail dust from my understanding is basically iron particles kicked up while being transported by train that are very hot when they land on the car and kind of embed themselves on the clearcoat/paint. They are not really evident at first, but eventually once moisture and oxygen get to them.. you get rust on the surface of the paint.

    It appears to be quite common and something that SHOULD be resolved by the pre-delivery detailing... which obviously was not done for my car!!!

    It's most obvious on white cars because of the contrast of the orange on white..

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    You can get this from iron filings from things on the road, like brake dust from other cars (mostly trucks), or like you said, trains on delivery.

    You will have to for sure claybar the car, or buff it properly. Next year through a coat of wax on it.

    ALL cars have this, it's just noticable on light cars, esp. white. But if it's major, then it's probably a dealership issue.

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    you would think they better protect cars when transporting via Rail. I hope your dealer will take a look and see what they can do rather than just to shrug you off.
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    I get this on my car all the time. Drives me nuts when I give the car its first good handwash in the spring. Be prepared to sit on your kiester for a few hours claybarring.

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    I had something similar on my also white MK3, but it would come off easily with a pre-wax cleaner.. this stuff does not. That's what leads me to believe it's from rail dust, it's more deeply seated in the paint and also EVERYWHERE....

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    Going tonight to have it looked at, I'll post back with how they decide to handle it!

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    Seen it many times definitely can be corrected. Clay bar is the best way for correction but it will take some time depending on the grade of clay. can be done yourself, depending on ability and tooling and material. Most likely a job better left to someone else but your also looking at about a 400-500 job

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    wow..that sucks. GVW not being nice to you? I know some people there in the service dept.

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    So, I had a chat with the service manager who indicated that it was likely "industrial fallout" aka airbourne particles that are kicked up on the roads or just from living near to industrial areas. He wasn't being an a$$hole and obviously I have no way to prove that it's rail dust, so I left it at that. I do live near an industrial area (who doesn't in Guelph) and bought the car from the dirty hammer VW so he may be right.

    He offered to have someone demonstrate how to use certain products come spring, so that I'm able to remove it myself. We'll see if that actually happens!

    He seemed to be treating me fairly on the whole.

    Oh well - I just won't wash my car anymore until spring.. LOL

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    Without seeing it I would also say it's most likely Rail Dust. We had a few cars with the same issue and like you said(should have happened), our detailer took care of it before we even sold the car.
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    I'd take pix and call VWoC, considering how many VW's you and your family have owned, they should be taking care of you better then this IMO.

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    Okay, next chance I can I will wash it and take photos and see if I can get anywhere with that. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninelives View Post
    Okay, next chance I can I will wash it and take photos and see if I can get anywhere with that. Thanks
    If you're still in Guelph you are welcome to show me some pics or meet up. I can help with this no problem. I've seen it on cars honestly the day the landed at dealerships all over the place. Once had a pdi on a grand am in alberta that was orange. Really it was white with a ton of fallout on it. Clay is the best way to go, with some glass cleaner and then someone who knows how to polish properly. Time consuming but there are much more miserable jobs to do out there. Let me know if you need a hand or help in anyway

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